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EMI To Cut Funding To RIAA? - New label owners looking to cut corners - dslreports.com @import url(http://i.dslr.net/css/aj6/ie7.css); republican-creoleSearch:  login · register HomeFind ServiceReviewsJobsNewsFAQsForumsToolsMapsAbout NewsSite BlogMBBMSWatchBurnfolder newer News Jump Thursday Evening LinksCanadians Plan Net Neutrality Protest May 15Republicans Pushing Telecom Immunity VoteBlocking Perftech Injected ISP MessagesResearchers Explore 'Polluting' BotnetsFBI: ISPs Should Retain User Data For 2 YearsXohm Delays Thanks To Backhaul IssuesOoma Drops Device PricesQwest Makes New ADSL2+ Tiers OfficialThursday Morning Links----------------------this weeklast weekmost discussed EMI To Cut Funding To RIAA?New label owners looking to cut corners11:02AM Thursday Nov 29 2007 by Karltags: Fileswapping · businessReuters reports that EMI is considering cutting funding to industry trade groups such as the RIAA, or its International equivalent, the IFPI. EMI, which was recently taken over by private equity group Terra Firma, is looking for a way to trim the fat, and RIAA funding may be their answer. Reuters says the major labels give about $132.1 million per year to these groups, most of which has been used to combat broadband piracy (aka their scorched-earth legal campaign).Related:Pirate Bay Seeks Compensation for Being BlockedCRTC Awaits Bell Canada ResponseComcast Seeks P2P “Bill of Rights and Responsibilities”Bell Canada Defends ThrottlingCisco Calls Canada’s Traffic Shaping “Innovative”Judge Orders Marshall University to Help RIAAPrimus Backs CAIP Against Bell CanadaAzureus Releases Data From BitTorrent Throttling Plugin Forums » EMI To Cut Funding To RIAA?Commentsview: topics flat text Post a: amungusPremiumjoin:2004-11-26Americaclubs:I thought.. it was the other way around... that the RIAA was supposed to collect fees from various sources for the artist/label... not that the label had to pay more out than they took in...Looks like interesting times ahead.permalink · 2007-11-29 10:46:57 · MaxoYour tax dollars at work.Premium,VIPjoin:2002-11-04Tallahassee, FLclubs:Re: I thought.. It's my understanding that record labels pay to part of the RIAA, the same way workers pay to be a member of a union.permalink · 2007-11-29 11:06:42 · SRFiresidejoin:2001-01-19Houston, TX·RoadRunner Cable said by amungus :it was the other way around...You are thinking about royalty collection agencies like ASCAP and BMI. The RIAA is more like a trade and lobby group for the record industry that represents its member companies. permalink · 2007-11-29 12:18:42 · pende_timPremiumjoin:2004-01-04Andover, NJRe: I thought.. No wonder the artists are not getting much money. There are too many hands in the pot each taking their cut. The money has to support too many recording studio agencies.Timpermalink · 2007-11-29 12:48:24 · CoxCable4banned from most servers for cheatingjoin:2002-10-02PwnZone so is the riaa going to sue emi now? that is the questionpermalink · 2007-11-29 18:58:29 · Jodokast96R.I.P Bassman442Premiumjoin:2005-11-23Erial, NJ·Verizon Online DSLedit:November 29th, @10:51AMFinally... At least one label is realizing they're all about the money and lining their own pockets, and making sure things stay that way. All that money and what have they done with it? Nothing. They haven't stopped piracy, nor even put a dent in it, and have driven even more people away with their tactics. At best they are doing as much harm as good, though I think more harm.permalink · 2007-11-29 10:47:38 · KearnstdElf Wizardjoin:2002-01-22Mullica Hill, NJRe: Finally... well what they should do is reinvest that money into DRM free digital sales solutions. they will get a better return.--[65 Arcanist]Filan(High Elf) Zone: Broadband Reportspermalink · 2007-11-29 10:55:54 · djrobxjoin:2000-05-31Valencia, CA·RoadRunner Cable·Time Warner VOIP·DSL EXTREMERe: Finally... EMI already does that.Go check out the mp3 store at amazon.com or the ITunes Plus DRM-Free downloads. I now look at those places first when I want a song.It really is starting to seem like EMI "gets it" and I am supporting them as much as possible. permalink · 2007-11-29 14:44:04 · Corehhijoin:2002-01-28Bluffton, SCRe: Finally... Check out spiral frog. Free no DRMpermalink · 2007-11-29 14:51:05 · TK Junk MailDrop dead to the DDos scumPremiumjoin:2002-03-03Margate City, NJ·Comcast said by Jodokast96 :At least one label is realizing they're all about the money. I wouldn't count my chickens before they hatch. The story is based on an unknown source. And all companies look to reduce costs. Unless they plan on dropping out of the trade groups completely, their contributions are set based on the trade group budgets and the costs are allocated to the member companies based on sales figures. So their CONTRIBUTIONS to trade groups are not set by the company by themselves, but in conjunction with the other group members.Will the trade groups have smaller budgets next year - maybe, maybe not. But EMI can't decide that for themselves - again unless they plan to drop out all together.--Internet NewsMy BLOGMy Web Pagepermalink · 2007-11-29 10:56:03 · Print · Jodokast96R.I.P Bassman442Premiumjoin:2005-11-23Erial, NJRe: Finally... When they said "cutting funding", I read it as killing funding, not reducing. Could be taken either way though. The question is, what are they getting for the $100 million a year and is it worth it. Seems they may not think it is.permalink · 2007-11-29 11:02:31 · bear73Metnav... Fly The Unfriendly SkiesPremiumjoin:2001-06-09Grand Forks Afb, ND·Midcontinent Commu..Re: Finally... well, they say they are cutting funding to the military the last few years... the military hasn't dissappeared, just has had some funding diminished... in certain programs... for example, they have cut funding for teh Raptor program, yet the jet is still in production, its just been reduced to less than half of what the initial order had been set for.so perhaps BMI is just reducing monies to RIAA, perhaps they will cut ALL funding to RIAA.... we will have to wait and see...--If ya gotta go, Go with a SMILE!permalink · 2007-11-29 13:53:52 · Print · Pale_Riderjoin:2004-10-18Richmond Hill, NY Private Equity isn't interested in the budgets of trade/industry groups.Cash outflow/valueless costs are red flag items to PE groups.permalink · 2007-11-29 15:17:57 · swhx7Premiumjoin:2006-07-23Elbonia·RoadRunner Cable • Stubbornly refusing to offer legal, high quality, DRM-free downloads that the public is eager to pay for: ZERO (or by the fantasy-accounting RIAA uses to estimate lost sales, $BILLIONS!)• Lawyers and court costs to sue 10k people per year, settle for $3k each: $MILLIONS• Pay a bunch of jokers to pollute p2p with bogus files, spy on participants, have their operations exposed in public: $MILLIONS• Promote a lot of market-researched, pitch-adjusted pop groups that no one cares about, trying to manufacture the next imitation of the last super hit: $MILLIONS• Incurring the contempt of music fans, file-sharers, and much of the public: Priceless!If you find yourself in a hole, stop digging.permalink · 2007-11-29 13:52:37 · Print · SSX4lifePremiumjoin:2004-02-13>_ lolzI'll be the first Fu*k the RIAA/MPAA/IFPI/ etc. Lord knows that they have a broken business model and need to convert and or die (prefer the 2nd to the 1st).permalink · 2007-11-29 10:52:02 · BabyBearKeep wise ...with Night-Owljoin:2007-01-11 Whom do YOU blame? So does these mean the RIAA will blame the loss of EMI funding on piracy!??? Nah... That wouldn't happen. It's not like the cry of "Piracy!" is the RIAA's knee-jerk answer to all their problems. permalink · 2007-11-29 10:52:47 · BloodRosesThe Purple FaeriePremiumjoin:2003-03-17New York, NYRe: Whom do YOU blame? That made me smile, thanks. permalink · 2007-11-29 11:49:51 · Sammerjoin:2005-12-22Pittsburgh, PAWhy pay for bad PR! It's about time one of the record labels realized that paying for bad PR is bad for business.permalink · 2007-11-29 11:01:44 · boltFormer Broadband ExilePremiumjoin:2003-11-11Charlestown, INWow...maybe I'll be able to buy EMI products again. I haven't bought me that 2 or 3 cd's in the past 5 years. The same for DVDs. If EMI were to drop out of RIAA, I would buy their products. I refuse to buy media from companies that support the **AA's on a matter of principle.permalink · 2007-11-29 12:04:45 · SilverSurferjoin:2007-08-19Not Even Noteworthy Reuters says the major labels give about $132.1 million per year to these groups, most of which has been used to combat broadband piracy. $132M is chump change to the RIAA. It's what they spend on atty fees for prosecution of a single P2P case.permalink · 2007-11-29 12:41:17 · Dodgejoin:2002-11-27clubs:Re: Not Even Noteworthy But if EMI pulls out and remain successful, the rest of the labels will start questioning what are they getting for their money.permalink · 2007-11-29 12:53:26 · SilverSurferjoin:2007-08-19Re: Not Even Noteworthy said by Dodge :But if EMI pulls out and remain successful, the rest of the labels will start questioning what are they getting for their money. I wouldn't bank on that. Both the RIAA and the record companies are led by obstinately blind obtuse people who are hellbent on their own destruction by virtue of the fact that they absolutely refuse to see that their obsolete distribution monopoly is ::OVER:: They would rather litigate the fans and otherwise buy off pet politicians to make new technology illegal instead of adapting accordingly.Notice how the entertainment industry worships at the altar of the free market at the same time it is the only industry in the country that feels it has a god-given right to quash technology to preserve its long-standing profit margins. No other industry can make those claims. permalink · 2007-11-29 13:33:18 · Print · Dodgejoin:2002-11-27clubs:Re: Not Even Noteworthy Actually every industry will stand in the way of technology to preserve their profit margins(if they are capable of it) - as an example I give you Exxon/Mobil.permalink · 2007-11-29 14:27:03 · SilverSurferjoin:2007-08-19Re: Not Even Noteworthy said by Dodge :Actually every industry will stand in the way of technology to preserve their profit margins(if they are capable of it) - as an example I give you Exxon/Mobil. I haven't seen Exxon/Mobile litigating its way into revenue generation the way the **AAs have. permalink · 2007-11-29 18:00:00 · Xurejoin:2003-11-14Beverly Hills, CAAll about return/investment ratio After a while, this is what you get.It look like someone with an actual business mind is looking into their return/investment ratio. They give them millions and get??? The give them millions and get a bunch of lawyers lining their pockets, a few pieces of bad press, a bunch of bought of politicians, several bad laws and piracy that is alive and well and not much more...Somebody with some business sense was bound to walk in and ask about the return/investment ratio. And see that is is quite weak besides all the RIAA propaganda.RIAA = publishers lose, public loses, artist lose and a few well placed layers, lobbyists and politicians gain.Finally, someone is realizing that the same business model may work for telcos or big oil and government contractors does not work for the Internet because of the inherent freedom and democracy that comes with it. Where a telco could sue a muni fiber build-out into oblivion, the RIAA can not do that due to the nature of the media. permalink · 2007-11-29 17:16:52 · Print · mrpirate@cbs.comgoodbye riaa...finally good cut them off at the knees its the ONLY way to rid us of their tyrannypermalink · 2007-11-29 20:12:44 · your comment..Forums » EMI To Cut Funding To RIAA?Friday, 25-Apr04:01:26 Terms of Use | Privacy Policy | Hosting by www.nac.net - DSL,Hosting & Co-lo | feedback | contact8th year online! © 1999-2008 dslreports.com.republican-creole ðàçäåëû áèëåò çàäîðíîâ èçìåðèòåëü ñîïðîòèâëåíèå 1ñ áþäæåòèðîâàíèå ðåøåòêà îöèíêîâàííûé öèêëîí áàòàðåéíûé áàõèëà ïðîèçâîäèòåëü àäðåñíûé áàçà äàííûé ñòðóêòóðíûé øòóêàòóðêà îáëèöîâêà ýëåêòðîêàìèí îõîòà ëèñ âàêàíñèÿ êðàñíîÿðñê ôåéðâåðê ïðàçäíèê âûäåëåíêà ïîìèäîð êóïëÿ âàðî÷íûé ïîâåðõíîñòü cata êñ-4361à êóïèòü ïê braas ðàçâàëüöîâêà ïîäîãðåâàòåëü èçìåðèòåëü îñâåùåííîñòü íåéìèíã ñêà÷àòü êîðîòêèé íàðä mobil cut